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andkon
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 Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: Blasphemy Laws Alive and Well |
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... in Russia:
| Quote: | MOSCOW — Two Russian curators who angered the Russian Orthodox Church with an exhibition that included images of Jesus Christ portrayed as Mickey Mouse and Vladimir Lenin were convicted Monday of inciting religious hatred and fined, but not sentenced to prison.
The two could have been sentenced to up to three years in prison, but were ordered only to pay fines of up to 200,000 rubles ($6,500).
But the prosecutors, backed by a resurgent Orthodox Church enjoying its best relations with the Kremlin since the Soviet break up, refused to back down. |
One friendly God-addict: "This can't be allowed to stand," said church activist Leonid Semyonovich, dressed in black and holding a silver cross nailed to a wooden plinth. "Society must be protected from these people. We wage spiritual war on them and will hound them out of Russia."
Giving power to religion is like giving a serial killer a chainsaw. |
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hulakan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| ...and some people reckon the Soviet Union was an evil empire; sheesh... voluntarily dissolving a nation state, with hardly a shot fired, was a pretty cool trick, to my anarchist eyes, but throwing the communist baby out with the imperialist bath water was a bit of over-kill I reckon. Vietnam and Cuba seem to be managing fairly well, given the death of Communism. |
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Wolverine
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Blasphemy Laws Alive and Well |
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| andkon wrote: |
| Quote: | | ... convicted Monday of inciting religious hatred |
"... We wage spiritual war on them and will hound them out of Russia." |
What is the definition of inciting religious hatred? |
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andkon
It's not a VOW of chastity...
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Apparently, drawing pictures. |
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ScottyDoesKnow
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Blasphemy Laws Alive and Well |
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| andkon wrote: |
| Quote: | | ... convicted Monday of inciting religious hatred |
"... We wage spiritual war on them and will hound them out of Russia." |
See, he incited the religious to hate. What a jerk. |
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Victory Gin
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Blasphemy Laws Alive and Well |
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| Wolverine wrote: | | andkon wrote: |
| Quote: | | ... convicted Monday of inciting religious hatred |
"... We wage spiritual war on them and will hound them out of Russia." |
What is the definition of inciting religious hatred? |
"I will harry them out of the land" King James I, of the "Puritans". |
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Skep
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| The Russian Orthodox Church was always going to tap into nationalist sentiments to get back in the game, even the Communist party has more or less kissed and made up with them. Incidentally they are part of the group trying to get homosexuality re-criminalized in Russia. |
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philbo
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: Blasphemy Laws Alive and Well |
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| Wolverine wrote: | | andkon wrote: |
| Quote: | | ... convicted Monday of inciting religious hatred |
"... We wage spiritual war on them and will hound them out of Russia." |
What is the definition of inciting religious hatred? |
I think the definition is inciting hatred against religions.. using religion to incite hatred against the non-religious while possibly fitting the actual meaning of the words better is outside their obvious use of the phrase 
I think my irony meter has just expired |
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andkon
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| Skep wrote: | | The Russian Orthodox Church was always going to tap into nationalist sentiments to get back in the game, even the Communist party has more or less kissed and made up with them. Incidentally they are part of the group trying to get homosexuality re-criminalized in Russia. |
That's a tough one. Homosexual acts shouldn't be criminalized but all priests should be in jail... |
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