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Dear Martin
I'll be brief, coz I have to get to work.
Night shift... (sigh)
In answer to your query, I do use Explorer,
and yes I do get the content come up. My problem with your site
is more an issue of repetitiveness, I find that I go through one
part that's fine, but I find the same subject matter repeated in
another part. When you have had little sleep this can be a bit disconcerting.
Sometimes I think I must have already looked at that topic, when
I have not, or vice versa. Especially in the feedback zone, this
gets confusing because the subject names are so similar. And they
are not really indicative of content....although I am sure it makes
sense to you! Anyway I have to run, see you in the machine!
Clancy
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I know what you mean now. There is quite a bit of repetition in
the feedback zone, the same message appearing again on a different
page. This needs sorting out. I will do something about it in a
week or two. I am not sure exactly how to sort the mess out. It
needs another system. I want to be able to put all the relevant
material in front of the less than obsessed viewer, this does require
using more than one way in to each piece in some way, as some messages
are part of a series and at the same time work well as stand-alone
messages, often in more than one broad subject area. I'll let this
puzzle stew for a few weeks and perhaps I will come up with some
novel way of handling the stuff. One of the big snags of confusing
the visitors is that it can give them the impression that they have
read it all because they keep coming across the same stuff.
As to page titles I have to hold my hands up. They are usually
a bit abstruse. There are a few jokes in there too, although hardly
side splitting.
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Dear Martin.
I read your comments about our comments today!
You funny boy. It took me a while to find it though. Talk about
posting in an obscure place.
So. I am wondering what
you think of the idea of sustaining life past its natural ending.
I mean by that, whatever would have been brought about by accident,
disease or simply age. Do you think that we should strive to preserve
a life, no matter what?
Personally my feelings and my work ethic
are in conflict here. I work in an area where we perform medical
miracles. We give people with failing livers and kidneys new organs.
But often they cause more problems for the person. Recently we lost
a Liver transplant recipient on the table. He was reasonably young
and could have lived for another ten years with his liver disease.
Many of our patients think it is worth it. and mostly I do too.
But occasionally you come across someone who you think that the
operation was wasted on. Like that fellow who had the hand transplant.
Or the very old and sick. Usually we have a limit on who gets transplants.
There are criteria that have to be met. But the rules seem to be
getting more stretched.
Then I also think that we should just let
nature take its course. Not bother to fight it. For instance, very
premature babies would never have made it without medical intervention
a few decades ago. And many are born with so many problems. I think
that we should just let them go. Rather than pouring all this time
energy and money into them.
Life is not sacred. We
are bacteria in the universe. Survival of the fittest, and let the
rest eat well.
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Medicine, ethics and life prolonging
Medical ethics have, like everything, evolved in their own way.
Certain basic principles were established early on which have guided
everybody in the discipline. All professions recruit the sort of
people who are in tune with their ethos; few economic libertarians
become nurses or social workers, few anti-capitalist agitators become
corporate lawyers.
Over time the basic principles have become stretched by experience
and the pressures of the job. People who don't like the way a discipline
is going don't join it. Very few Catholic fundamentalist types get
involved in reproductive medicine, few Hitlerite types get involved
in palliative care for the elderly and handicapped. So the entrenched
attitudes get more entrenched. This is further reinforced by selfish
careerism. Surgeons do new types of surgery because they
can, if it is possible it should be done, if it is possible it is
better that they do it, rather than somebody else. Medicine
is full of prima donnas.
Should human life be prolonged?
There is no simple answer to this. There has to be a lot of attention
given to quality of life and the costs involved. In many cases this
calculation is simple, otherwise healthy person falls into icy water,
resuscitation is obviously a good idea. But as time goes on and
technology advances more and more difficult choices are faced. Such
as the late abortions that become desperate attempts to resuscitate
the "premature baby", that is a problem created by contrasting ethical
standards. That particular one should be cured by getting clear
in everybody's head that an abortion consists of two basic operations,
killing and removing, and if done in two distinct
steps without any window of opportunity for God or fate to interfere
there need be no problem. An overdose of painkillers to the foetus
and then remove it. Abortion cannot be done if the death of the
foetus is seen as an unwanted by-product, that is typical of much
wrong headed woolly thinking by believers, "if God wants to save
the baby he will make it clear, and then we will do it..." Weird
and wrong-headed.
Human life should not be prolonged no matter what. Firstly we need
to be clear about why human life is precious. It is not because
human life was created by God or because it has a certain number
of chromosomes. Human life is precious because it is sentient. Keeping
alive a non-sentient human life is no benefit to anybody. Without
a quality of life and sentience human life is animal life, and normal
veterinary ethics apply. People in comas with no prospect of survival
should be deliberately put to death in a painless manner. I would
probably extend that to braindamaged children with no prospect of
an enjoyable and human life.
Did you know that Hitler never ordered any mental defectives be
sent to gas chambers? He simply responded to the heartfelt pleas
of one German father who saw no quality of life for his son. The
rest is history, his henchmen simply interpreted his will from this
one episode. Hitler ranted a lot, but gave few orders, an administrator's
nightmare boss. Hitler probably put back the cause of science and
the biological approach to politics more than any man who ever lived.
It might take another hundred years or more to put right the damage
he caused.
Usually we have a limit on who gets transplants.
There are criteria that have to be met. But the rules seem to
be getting more stretched.
Of course the rules will be stretched. Surgeons do not get any
credit for the operations they decide not to perform.
Then I also think that we should just let
nature take its course. Not bother to fight it. For instance,
very premature babies would never have made it without medical
intervention a few decades ago. And many are born with so many
problems. I think that we should just let them go. Rather than
pouring all this time energy and money into them.
I agree. Of course if the babies would grow up with few complications
then we should intervene but there is no reason to bring children
into the world to spend 70 years as a drain on our medicine and
social services. The judgement should be made on the basis of a
reasonable appraisal of their net contribution or cost to society.
We cannot give too much weight to the siren voices of today's cripples.
They will always make out a case for unlimited charity. People always
look out for their own kind, people who probably share a genetic
or memetic inheritance, that universal tendency even extends to
the genes for diseases. Deep down inside cripples want more of their
kind, even if they will not rationalize it as such.
You have problems with your beliefs and your work? Can you imagine
me looking after brain-damaged children while reading about the
Nazi's attitudes to eugenics and the treatment of the handicapped?
I did that for a few months. I found that I was actually significantly
more caring than those who believed that they had fundamental rights
and deserved unlimited care. It was a strange experience getting
paid a pittance to look after children, some with the intellectual
ability in the laboratory rat league, who were costing more to care
for than the gross income of me and the five adjacent households
put together.
The next move for the site is an A-Z subject
index which might help considerably in helping people make serendipitous
discoveries on the site. I don't know how long this might take,
I suspect that it might take a while, so I will put it up part-finished
on Tuesday night (probably Wednesday morning for you.)
Now, this is a tricky subject to broach with anybody but please
forgive me. I am fairly clear about your sexual orientation, but
not totally sure about your sex. Do you want to make it clear
or do you enjoy ambiguity? Just curious. :-)
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I had the strangest dream last night, I sent you an e-mail that.....ooops.
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OOps? Now I am intrigued.
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Don't be too intrigued. I simply got the idea into my head that
you might be a man pretending to be a woman. Now think about that,
how can you ever prove it one way or another? If you meet the person
in question there are ways, subtle and less so, but if all you see
are text messages, what then? Well one way is to wait until you
are very drunk and ask outright.
The reason I was suspecting is that I know a man who does this;
Daniel the till girl by day, Crystal Dee playing Miss Scarlet on
online Cluedo all night, flirting mildly with men who think he is
a tall leggy blonde. Needless to say Daniel is as bent as a nine
bob note.
Now can you understand my problem? Was I really that drunk? Anyway,
it occurred to me that if I was right in my strange suspicion you
would hardly be likely to admit it, would you? In a way this is
a bit like the mystery of God. Once you postulate something of this
sort you can never unprove it. You can never unprove the possibility
of the existence of God, you can never disprove a conspiracy theory
and it is very difficult to disprove the idea that you are only
pretending to be female. How could you do it? Send me a picture?
How do I know that is really you? Telephone me? Same problem.
What a strange dilemma to get into. Anyway. That explains the oops.
Did I really allow that message to be sent like that?
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Martin....how to prove...hmmm.
I don't know why I should prove it too you.
But I guess It is a bit like God.....you still feel like you have
to make the argument! Well I won't send you my passport...that might
be a bit risqué. How about a photo?
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Sorry about that whole saga. I hope you can see the funny side.
By the way, I wouldn't have cared much either way.
I am fairly certain that a fair proportion of the people out there
in chat forums and the like are very far removed from the image
they present.
Have you heard of the Turing Test? A test
to see if computers can fool people into believing they are real
people, that was based on a thought experiment about men posing
as women. Not surprising, Turing was gay. Posing as a member of
the opposite sex is quite an intellectual challenge. It reminds
me of a phenomenon I encountered a few years ago on CB radio; gay
truckers. These were apparently screaming queens who were obviously
genuine truckers but were they actually gay or not, nobody was sure.
Naughty Norman and Gaylord were the two best. They kept it up for
hours at a time, ooh, saucy.
Apparently one motorway policeman pulled Naughty Norman over one
day and told him to get out of his truck
"What's the matter officer, have I done anything particularly
naughty? Do you want to chastise me?"
"Err no. I just want to ask you a question."
"Fire away. Be brutal."
"Are you, or are you not a practising homosexual?"
"No ducks, I don't need to practice anymore. I'm an expert.
Will that be all sir?"
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Ah it does'na matter bairn! Hehehehe.
Actually that reminded me of something that
happened on F2B a while ago. Someone posted that they wanted to
assasinate GW Bush. Everyone jumped on their tail and told them
to be careful what they posted. After looking at your tracker I
had to agree. I pointed out that if a harmless little atheist site
like yours (no offence!) got interest from the USA military and
FBI etc. Imagine what imflammatory statements like that might do
to the Fade. We already have Army Intelligence officers posting
there (Snuffy1n5), so they are probably already keeping an eye on
him.
Be paranoid!
Clancy.
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I expect if the US military really are watching me they would be
showing up in the dozens of "unknown" visitors or ".com" or ".net",
don't you? I think the CIA budget probably extends to a tame ISP
or two. The .mil visits I think come from a US marine who has contacted
me on a number of occasions.
A good little ruse you might like to try is to overload the listening-in
agent's computers. Always put a small section in each email you
send that contains likely search words that the snoopers will be
looking for.
So the plastic explosive is ready. I suggest 3 kilos of Semtex
under the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the bomb in Big Ben should get
4 kilos. The heroin shipment from Columbia is due on Tuesday. I
need those 5,000 M16 rifles by Thursday. OK?
Well, maybe it is a bit juvenile. But if it is fun, why not?
As for harmless, why not? Although I prefer Mostly Harmless.
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Please don't do anything as silly as to try to gum up the eavesdropping
of the intelligence community. Remember whose side they are on.
Don't do anything to make the terrorists and criminals activities
easier to hide. Do not encrypt your emails or do other silly childish
things to make out that you have secrets. Transparency is good.
Say what you mean, mean what you say and sign your name clearly.
26 September 2001
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Have you got any ideas as to how I can entice some more visitors
my way? I have just put up a bulletin board, it seems to me that
this sort of think is a classic case of success breeding success.
So how to start the snowball rolling? I thought I would ask you
as you seem to be the most ardent bulletin board poster I know.
By the way, this is all done for the joy of it, no commercial motivation
at all, and whatever I make I'll go halves with you... I have enclosed
your advanced fee.
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Dear Martin.
Thanks, I think I feel flattered.
I had a look at your buletin board the other
day, admittedly it was only a brief peek, but I will be honest and
say that it did not seem terribly user friendly. But I may revise
my opinion.
MMM, how to start the snowball. Well the
best way to do it, and how I came by your site in the first place,
is to plant suggestions on OTHER bulletin boards. ANd make it controversial,
inviting your homophobic catholic friend was a good start.
If you like I will post a few appetisers,
set off the first avalanche so to speak. Never know where it might
take us.
Clancy...
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I know what you mean about it being not especially user-friendly.
I will have to see if I can tinker with it. But it's free server
space with working code so beggars can't be choosers. I will keep
my eyes open for a better option. Maybe somebody who appreciates
my work will let me have some toys to play with for free.
A tip to help with the bulletin board is to use a simple text editor
like notepad to store your name and email address, so you can just
quickly cut and paste it into the boxes with a couple of mouse sweeps
and standard keyboard shortcuts. You can do the same thing if you
know what message you want to post in advance.
Can you believe it? That homophobe
has written back THANKING ME for the reply and saying he will send
a photo next time, so I can see why homosexual men pester him. The
mind boggles. Perhaps he looks like an arsehole too...
I never turn down free publicity, if you fancy having a go at promoting
my site I'll not stand in your way.
Martin
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Ah, Martin.
You are a man after my own heart, mind...and
body.
No seriously. I liked your piece on big
women. There are a lot of men out there who think the same as
you, and a few who do not. But for some reason the fashion industry
and the world of entertainment in general has not yet caught on
to this fact. Mind you, I have no aversion to big men either. But
as someone who falls into the "Rubenesque" category, I do like to
be appreciated for more than my mind sometimes.
Keep up the good work Martin. I
will try to think of something deeply profound to post on your forum.
Unfortunately I have been very busy at work, no time for the net.
No rest for the wicked!
Clancy
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I can't understand why so many men fall for this stick-insect idea
of women. I honestly don't think that much of women like Kate Moss
and the Corrs. While I wouldn't actually refuse to impregnate them
if they asked nicely I would not go out of my way to do it.
In the shop I obviously get to see the full cross section of the
population and I have to say that my tastes are very typically male,
not exactly discriminating, I go for all sorts, while I have preferences
these would, in an ideal scenario (fantasy) be about sequence rather
than exclusion. I think it is very sad that I have such a poor choice
of internationally known larger women I can say I think are attractive.
There are none that I can think of. There are a few British celebrities
that are above average size (which is itself far above the average
size of celebrities). The average British woman is dress size 16
in the British system, anything over size 12 is considered fat by
the media. My wife dreams of slimming down enough to fit the size
18 black number she keeps in the wardrobe. I don't tell her that
it fits me because she gets cross ;-) Actually it probably doesn't
anymore, shame.
Have you heard the one about the Foreign Legion troops in the desert?
Where do we get to get our ends away? Just wait till Friday
when Mustafa brings his camels. Friday comes and there is a great
stampede, what are you running for? What's the matter, you
want to get stuck with an ugly one?
Why do men still discriminate between women who they are not actually
going to impregnate? In an age of universal contraception surely
one fleshy tube is as good as another? It has got to be about intra-male
status. Otherwise the rational approach is to screw the women who
are the least likely to give you a sexually transmitted disease
or to bore you afterwards. On both those counts I think most modern
men get it wrong.
Martin
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Martin.
I used to suffer under the impression that
I was not sexually attractive to men because of my size. Since I
have hit my mid twenties, this has been reversed. I have no trouble
attracting men at all. Also I have been astounded by the numbers
of men who frequent the BBW chat rooms I some times go to on the
net. It is phenomenal.
However you are correct when you say this
trend has not at all supported by the media, well only in a very
small minority. Probably one of my favourite comediennes is Dawn
French, not only for her wit, but the way she is able to portray
herself as a sexy, sexually active and aware woman. The subject
is still seen as taboo.
Personally, I have to admit that I am on
a diet, for health reasons more than anything else. But I am determined
that I do not want to be "Skinny" and my boyfriend has told me that
he would not like me that way anyway. A size 16 or 18 would be fine
by me. It is hard too when clothing companies do not make sexy fashionable
clothes for larger women, and if they do they are hideously expensive.
It is refreshing Martin, to hear a man like
you praising the beauty of a fuller figure.
Clancy
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So you go on Big Beautiful Women chat rooms? I didn't know such
things existed. How about dropping in a link to my Big Women page
and suggest they send me some comments? They all count on the hit
counter. I quite fancy the idea of expanding that page a bit.
Do you by any chance have any good images I could use? Nothing
too pornographic or likely to get me into other kinds of legal trouble.
It is a difficult problem, thin women look better in clothes, but
rounded women are better naked.
I have found that the odd tangential piece of work on the site
often helps drive quite a bit of traffic my way and generates a
lot of interest. Satanism, metrication, the Jewish lobby, Exotheology
and the American Dream have all been minor hits.
The latest flurry of activity came on alt.atheism in response to
a post about "young people these days", at least that is what the
respondents seem to think it was about. Normally I expect to see
blatant misunderstanding only when I post on Christian groups. Anyway,
it is all good fun.
You have a couple of replies to your postings on my bulletin board.
Finally I think there is some sign of activity reaching the point
of "critical mass".
Dawn French.
100% agree. She is fantastic, one of the sexiest women on TV. She
has beautiful hair and face, a nice smile a nice personality and
what else, oh yes, THOSE. But even without those huge
breasts she is a great woman. Humour, wit, a nice smile, a nice
voice and an appetite for life and sex are far more important than
trivial things like size, shape or hair colour. I want a woman,
not a Barbie doll. Fortunately I have one. Unfortunately I have
to settle for one...
Do you have any objection to me posting our e-mail on the site?
I think there is enough now to make it interesting. I have found
that my writing improves when I think I have a potentially larger
audience to show off to. I get the impression that you are not averse
to publicity, but correct me if I'm wrong.
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Martin.
Yes I do go to BBW chat rooms, it is one
of my secret vices...don't tell anyone!
I use paltalk..I will send it to you if
you like. Its a conference chat...voice and video. But I don't have
a camera, apart from the fact my boyfriend wont let me get one,
I have no room left in my poor little overworked lap top. If you
like I will tell a few of the people there about your site. There
is one or two I know who would definitely appreciate it! I will
also look out some pics for you, but I have a suggestion. My mother
is a painter..she does a lot of nude lifes, I'm sure she would have
one of a larger woman that you could use. But other wise, I know
of heaps.
Of course you can post our email on your
site. I have been waiting for you to ask me...actually I was starting
to feel a bit left out! Anyway, I am at work at the moment..on the
dreaded night shift. It has been extremely busy up to this point.
I am writing this at 2 am..just sat down for a cuppa. But now I
have to get back to work.
Hear from you soon!
Clancy
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